Cheers,
Phil
On Tue, 7 May 1996 cp@opus.hpl.hp.com wrote:
> CP Digest 706
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) Superthrive
> by Ken Cusson <ccskenc@redshift.com>
> 2) Sphagnum moss
> by Gordon Wells <wells@ic.upc.es> (Tel "(343)-401-6659")
> 3) End of lurk
> by Derek Marshall <dmarshal@lr.net>
> 4) New CITES Checklist
> by svergara@pacific.telebyte.com
> 5) Is Superthrive Supersilly
> by barry@as.arizona.edu (Barry Meyers-Rice)
> 6) Ephemeral nepenthes stamps
> by nepenth@pc.jaring.my
> 7) Re: Is Superthrive Supersilly
> by dave evans <T442119@RUTADMIN.RUTGERS.EDU>
> 8) Drosera search
> by Nicholas Plummer <nplummer@umich.edu>
> 9) Spiders
> by ghabeeb@nccn.net (Gary Habeeb)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 1
>
> Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 23:36:33 -0700
> From: Ken Cusson <ccskenc@redshift.com>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Superthrive
> Message-ID: <318EEF71.FFB@redshift.com>
>
> I mentioned before the success I had with a number of VFT that were in
> very bad shape. (By the way, when I tranplanted them they were packed
> (and I do mean packed!) in a mixture that looked like it was developed
> for large orchids rather than small bog plants - the plants were, in
> some cases, beginning to decompose from root rot.) As far as I
> am concerned the Superthrive saved the day for these plants in a very
> miraculous manner (all survived beautifully!). It is not a fertilizer,
> but more like a supplement to a fertilizer (although I used no
> fertilizers). It is not "snake oil" - this stuff really works!
>
> It is manufactured by the "Vitamin Institute" in North Hollywood, CA.
> They will accept orders by mail if there are no dealers in your area
> (they request that you give them a name of a non-dealer). Our friends
> from outside the US might just order it like any other vitamin (??).
>
> I will try to get more info for those who are interested. (It costs
> around $8.00 (US) for 4 oz. (but a little goes a very long way!).
>
> "California Carnivores" also sells it. By the way, has anyone heard if
> CC has gotten online yet? It would be nice to see someone counter the
> website from the "unspoken" nursery on the East coast with a good one
> from the west side of town ....
>
> Ken C.
>
> ***************************************************************
> * Get vengeance on that mosquito -- grow a Carnivorous Plant! *
> * ccskenc@redshift.com OR ken@casadyg.com *
> ***************************************************************
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 2
>
> Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 12:50:01 UTC+0200
> From: Gordon Wells <wells@ic.upc.es> (Tel "(343)-401-6659")
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com (confirm)
> Subject: Sphagnum moss
> Message-ID: <1177*/S=wells/OU=ic/O=upc/PRMD=iris/ADMD=mensatex/C=es/@MHS>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> > Does anybody know where I may purchase living sphagnum moss??
> > (other than PP's Nursery?)
> > Thanks...
> >
> > MIke
>
> Live moss is sometimes hard to find, because even if a nursery
> buys it live, it will die on them in a few days anyway unless
> they keep it in the right conditions, which they usually don't
> because it's too much trouble. It's really not necessary to go
> to the trouble of looking for live sphagnum. Just buy dead moss
> and put it in your terrarium. If it's kept wet and well lit, it
> will start growing again in a few days or weeks. Even the
> deadest-looking dead moss I've bought has come back to life
> for me when I put it in my terrarium.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gordon Wells
> Instituto de Cibernetica
> Diagonal 647, planta 2
> Barcelona 08028
> SPAIN
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 3
>
> Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 07:45:19 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Derek Marshall <dmarshal@lr.net>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: End of lurk
> Message-ID: <199605071145.HAA05972@ns1.lr.net>
>
> I have been reading this list for a few weeks, so it is time to jump in. I
> am a potter and orchid grower currently acquiring a taste for CPs. My
> introduction to CPs started last summer when I pulled my car over after
> seeing some unusual plants in a bog not far from my house in NH, USA. Not
> recognizing the strange flowers rising above the bog, I ventured out on an
> apparently stable surface of Sphagnum moss. As I approached the plants
> which now turn out to be a wonderful mass of Sarracenia purpurea, one leg
> fell through the mat of Sphag and I realized that there was nothing beneath
> but water. After extracting that leg and getting back to solid Sphag, the
> other leg fell through and I lost all interest in all plants and immediately
> set out for terra firma on all fours, quite wet, including camera and book...
>
> Recently I found LeCoufle's book on CPs on sale for $5, a good deal. I also
> discovered that the local supermarket had a sale of mini terrariums
> ("Terrarium of Terror") containing VFTs, some kind of Drosera and a
> Sarracenia purpurea, all in a rather sorry state, but going cheap. These
> are now in my greenhouse and the Dros. are already cleaning up the fungus
> gnats. Of the four Drosera, two have rotted crowns although the lower
> leaves are OK. I wonder if they will survive or does a dead apical growth
> spell doom for these plants.
>
> BTW, I sell a line of special clay epiphytic orchids pots which might be
> just the thing for Nepenthes. Check out my web site on the Orchid Mall at:
> http://www.netins.net/showcase/novacon/cyphaven/perfpot.htm
>
> Anybody wanting the brochure of these pots (which will also hang nicely)
> send me your snail mail address and I will be happy to mail the information.
> If anyone has suggestions on the ideal CP pot, if such might exist, I would
> be interested in your thoughts.
>
> Cheers and good growing
> Derek
> Derek Marshall == Sandwich NH USA
> Orchid Perfection Clay Orchid Pots, if you really want to grow orchids...
> Ask for brochure: dmarshal@lr.net ** Check us out on the Orchid Mall
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 4
>
> Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 08:05:10 -0700
> From: svergara@pacific.telebyte.com
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: New CITES Checklist
> Message-ID: <199605071505.IAA15536@pacific.telebyte.com>
>
> Some of you may find this of use.
>
> <---- Begin Forwarded Message ---->
> Date: Tue, 7 May 96 11:27:19 BST
> Reply-To: cites-l@wcmc.org.uk
> From: John.Caldwell@wcmc.org.uk
> To: Multiple recipients of list <cites-l@wcmc.org.uk>
> Subject: New CITES Checklist
>
> The CITES Secretariat has just published, jointly with the World Conservation
> Monitoring Centre (WCMC), the Checklist of CITES Species (ISBN 10899 628-05-
> 03).
>
> This replaces the previous Checklist of CITES Fauna and Flora, by Dr Kees
> Schouten.
>
> This new edition, of 400 pages, includes the text of the Convention and the
> CITES Appendices, in English, French and Spanish, the scientific names and
> synonyms of the listed species and their common names, also in English,
> French and Spanish, and an indication of the appendix in which each species
> is listed.
>
> It is available only from the CITES Secretariat, for CHF 35 plus postage. The
> address of the Secretariat is:
>
> Case postale 456
> CH-1219 CHATELAINE-Geneva
> Switzerland
>
> Tel: (+4122) 979-9139/40 Fax: (+4122) 797-3417 E-mail: cites@unep.ch
>
> With best regards
>
> John
>
> J.R.Caldwell
> CITES-L list manager
>
>
>
>
> <---- End Forwarded Message ---->
>
> Best Regards,
>
> -Scott
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Scott Gregory Vergara
> Horticultural Consultant
> Botanical Resources
> P.O. Box 669
> Burley, Washington 98322-0669 USA
> svergara@pacific.telebyte.com
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 5
>
> Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 10:30:29 -0700
> From: barry@as.arizona.edu (Barry Meyers-Rice)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Is Superthrive Supersilly
> Message-ID: <9605071730.AA13482@mips3.as.arizona.edu>
>
> OK, OK, I've seen the words Superthrive a billion times so I am finally
> a little curious.
>
> Has ANYONE in this group performed a careful set of experiments to see if
> this stuff REALLY does anything? For example...
>
> At least two pots of the SAME CLONE of a plant must be given a year or so
> to become accustomed to their conditions. Then the pots are separated into
> two groups---the control group is given normal culture, and the other is
> given the superthrive. They must be kept in separate trays. Ideally the
> locations of the trays should be rotated each week in case one tray occupies
> some better spot in the greenhouse. Then at the end of a year, the plants
> can be assessed and the effects of Superthrive evaluated. Ideally, the
> person that does this final evaluation should be an experienced CPer, but
> not the same one who applied the Superthrive (trying to make this a blind
> test). Except for this last step, this is exactly what I did to prove to
> myself that a weekly foliar application of Miracid makes tuberous Drosera
> very happy.
>
> Has anyone done this? I am still in the camp that thinks Superthrive is
> snake-oil (colloquial for semi-mystical nonsense to fool people). I would
> like to be convinced.
>
> Barry
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 6
>
> Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 01:35:55 +0800 (MYT)
> From: nepenth@pc.jaring.my
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Ephemeral nepenthes stamps
> Message-ID: <199605071735.BAA06009@relay7.jaring.my>
>
> To everyone who has contacted me about ordering nepenthes stamps:
>
> Sorry, I've got some bad news:
>
> I went down to the post office today to get the stamps for
> everyone and to my utter horror found that they had been
> discontinued just a few days ago. Despite my ardulent pleading
> they claimed that they had absolutely none left for
> sale. These stamps had only been released two weeks ago! I
> guess they're destined to become collector's items...
>
> Anyway, I have two dozen stamps remaining from part of a sheet I
> had bought for myself and I am willing to distribute them to
> people who have already contacted me. I have all four species
> but can offer only two stamps per person so that there will be
> enough for everyone. Please let me know if you're still
> interested.
>
> Many apologies,
>
> Ch'ien
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 7
>
> Date: Tue, 07 May 96 18:02 EDT
> From: dave evans <T442119@RUTADMIN.RUTGERS.EDU>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: Is Superthrive Supersilly
> Message-ID: <199605072213.AA182967201@hplms26.hpl.hp.com>
>
> > From: barry@AS.ARIZONA.EDU(Barry Meyers-Rice)
> >
> > Has anyone done this? I am still in the camp that thinks Superthrive is
> > snake-oil (colloquial for semi-mystical nonsense to fool people). I would
> > like to be convinced.
>
> Barry,
>
> Why wouldn't it work? It has vitamin B1 and rooting hormone
> both of which have been proven to work already. Vitamin B1
> is used to reduce transplant shock by strenghting the roots
> and improving overall vigor, rooting hormone 1-NAA (sp?) does
> what it supposed to...
>
> BTW, this stuff should slow/stop (kill?) basal growth on
> Nepenthes when given through the pitchers of the main stem, has
> anyone experienced this?
>
> Dave Evans
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 8
>
> Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 22:48:00 -0500
> From: Nicholas Plummer <nplummer@umich.edu>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Drosera search
> Message-ID: <31901970.16A6@umich.edu>
>
> I'm searching for Drosera schizandra and Drosera prolifera. Does
> anyone have extra plants/cuttings available or know of a commercial
> source?
>
> Nick
>
> --------------------
> Nicholas Plummer
> nplummer@umich.edu
> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~nplummer/homepage.html
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 9
>
> Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 20:55:05 -0800
> From: ghabeeb@nccn.net (Gary Habeeb)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Spiders
> Message-ID: <v01540b00adaf4d6333cc@[205.139.74.195]>
>
> I was looking down the throat of an S. flava and noticed a spider had set
> up a web. How common is it and are there any known relationships.
>
> Another note: I saw an article in last months Ranger Rick magazine (a
> natural history magizine for children) featuring CP's, S. purpurea, VFT and
> a Drosera. Has anyone thought about getting out to the schools with their
> plants. A great way to save habitat is through early education. Kids
> can't get enough of VFT's.
>
> regards,
>
>
> Gary Habeeb
> ghabeeb@nccn.net
> Nevada City, CA, USA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of CP Digest 706
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>