Randy Palmer
sfdzeqe0@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us
On Mon, 1 Apr 1996 cp@opus.hpl.hp.com wrote:
> 			    CP Digest 670
> 
> Topics covered in this issue include:
> 
>   1) Re: Philippines
> 	by bb626@scn.org (SCN User)
>   2) public apology
> 	by Perry Malouf <pmalouf@access.digex.net>
>   3) re:heliamphora growing
> 	by paigeblakely@earthlink.net (Geoffrey Blakely)
>   4) Pings on vertical soil
> 	by "Jan Stenicka (student)" <STENICKA@tunw.upol.cz>
>   5) Re: NEW PING. SPECIES IDENTIFIED!
> 	by Peter Cole <carnivor@bunyip.demon.co.uk>
>   6) Heliamphora culture/Herbarium specimens
> 	by Rogan Roth <roth@botany.unp.ac.za>
>   7) Re: NEW PING. SPECIES IDENTIFIED!
> 	by Gilles Lardy <lardyg7@cti.ecp.fr>
>   8) Utrics and fry
> 	by "Nick Plummer" <Nick_Plummer.HG#u#MAIL@mailgw.surg.med.umich.edu>
>   9) Re: Weird and Wonderful contest
> 	by Fernando Rivadavia Lopes <ferndriv@usp.br>
>  10) Re: Re: wierd and wonderful contest
> 	by dave evans                           <T442119@RUTADMIN.RUTGERS.EDU>
>  11) In Vitro of Sarracenia seeds
> 	by paigeblakely@earthlink.net (Geoffrey Blakely)
>  12) sweet revenge!
> 	by Chris Teichreb <teichrch@Meena.CC.URegina.CA>
>  13) VFT
> 	by MPM7347@ACS.TAMU.EDU
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Topic No. 1
> 
> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:43:17 -0800
> From: bb626@scn.org (SCN User)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: Philippines
> Message-ID: <199604010043.QAA09186@scn.org>
> 
> Jan,
> Sorry no type info only site info on N. deaniana. I did speak with
> John Turnbull on the description that was in Macfarland mono of N.
> deaniana. He stated that the plants on the summit were different than
> The  more common ones at lower  elevations.
> As for N. petiolata i would have to see ELMER's write up on N.
> surigaoensis. I have found the documentation back then very sloppy.
> Does Danser consider the petioles in N. truncata and alata when he
> made the evaluation of that sample from Elmer? They all grow together
> in Mindinao and multiple hybrids are all over the place.
> Truly,
> 
> --
> Tom Kahl/Nepenthes Club
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Topic No. 2
> 
> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:28:37 +4300 (EST)
> From: Perry Malouf <pmalouf@access.digex.net>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: public apology
> Message-ID: <199604010128.UAA15801@access2.digex.net>
> 
> To all subscribers:
> 	My apologies for having three postings appear on
> the listserver which should have been sent to private
> addresses.  In fact the first two were duplicates.  I'm
> still trying to figure out how this happened, as my 
> original attempt was to send mail directly to the inquiring
> individual.
> 
> 			Mea culpa...
> 
> 				Perry Malouf
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Topic No. 3
> 
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:29:24 -0500
> From: paigeblakely@earthlink.net (Geoffrey Blakely)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: re:heliamphora growing
> Message-ID: <v01530500ad865c65ef53@[153.37.110.1]>
> 
> In answer to some heliamphora questions, from what I know heliamphora can
> be fertilized with 1/4 strength fertilizer misted onto the leaves once or
> twice a month. No I do not believe that they are self fertile.
> 
> As for my black plastic, it keeps the lights from bothering me in the
> mornings because one of my shelving units is in my bedroom. Bright lights
> at 6 in the morning? I think at that time I'd feel as if the aliens have
> invaded my room to examine me.
> 
> Geoff in NC
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Topic No. 4
> 
> Date:          Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:39:11 MET-1
> From: "Jan Stenicka (student)" <STENICKA@tunw.upol.cz>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Pings on vertical soil
> Message-ID: <29BA6C734B@tunw.upol.cz>
> 
>  Hi everybody,
> could someone help me? I have trouble with cultivation of european 
> Pings on vertical soil (mixured from peat, limestone gravel and 
> sphagnum). I've prepared watering system, which contains waterpump, 
> filter, containers (60x30x5cm, inclination almost 50 degrees). 
>     !!! Should I be affraid of soil's washing away? !!!   
> GOOD GROWING
> Jan
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Topic No. 5
> 
> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 11:20:57 GMT
> From: Peter Cole <carnivor@bunyip.demon.co.uk>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: NEW PING. SPECIES IDENTIFIED!
> Message-ID: <4765@bunyip.demon.co.uk>
> 
> ... 
> > very soft and expansible spur.  I thought first to name it P. glacialis,
> > but this is to common, dozens of plants are 'glacialis'. P. gelida? Is
> > rarely used in botanical names. P. algida? Exists already. P. barbata, in
> > honour to the beard of the species _Janus Schlauerus_? Not distinct, many
> > have beards. P. rivadaviae? Inadequate, Fernando doesn't like cold
> > climates.  P. aprilia?
> 
>        P.aprilis ssp.iocus I would imagine, doubtless a relative of Leonard
>        Bastin's P.capra-consumis  :^)
> 
>        Happy growing,
> 
>                   Peter
> 
> 
> snail:Peter Cole,17 Wimmerfield Cr. :mailto:carnivor@bunyip.demon.co.uk
>      Killay, SWANSEA SA2 7BU, WALES :http://www.angel.co.uk/flytrap/index.htm
>   vox:+44 1792 205214               :ftp://www.angel.co.uk/pub/flytrap
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Topic No. 6
> 
> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 14:45:32 +0200
> From: Rogan Roth <roth@botany.unp.ac.za>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Heliamphora culture/Herbarium specimens
> Message-ID: <s15fec23.085@smtp.unp.ac.za>
> 
> Dear Everybody,
> 
> I would like to comment on two recent subjects of interest:
> 
> 1.) I grow Heliamphora heterodoxa close to the wet-wall of one of our
> greenhouses very successfully.  The cool, humid air which
> continuously flows around the plant seems to be the right recipe. 
> Light levels are fairly high c. 60% of full sunlight.  I have several
> seedlings of Darlingtonia in the same position which have thrived,
> even though our summertime highs have reached 35+ deg.C on several
> occasions.
> 
> 2.) I have dried pitchers of several CP genera for preservation using
> a 50/50 mixture of fine silica sand and silica gel.  Specimens are
> completely dehydrated 7-10 days later.  This method often preserves
> the natural colour and shape of the specimen indefinitely - wonderful
> if you want to encase it in a block of casting resin!
> 
> Cheers for now from one of the only two South Africans on the list!
> 
> Best regards
> Rogan.
> 
> (ROTH@BOTANY.UNP.AC.ZA)
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Topic No. 7
> 
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:56:24 +0200 (MET DST)
> From: Gilles Lardy <lardyg7@cti.ecp.fr>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: NEW PING. SPECIES IDENTIFIED!
> Message-ID: <199604011256.OAA15479@lynx.cti.ecp.fr>
> 
> Unbelievable...
> 
> At 19:31 31/03/1996 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> >Unbelievable: Recently I found a Ping. population growing on pure ice at
> >the margin of a glacier (not on the moraines but on the glacier itself) and
> >even within crevasses! The winter buds stage seems to last about 10 months
> >and even during the 2 month vegetation period the plant tolerates
> >temperatures much below the freezing point (as it is known also from
> >Ranunculus glacialis and other high-alpine species). Microscopical
> >investigation revealed glacier fleas as the main prey, but also ice-tails
> >(an alpine springtail species) and an alpine microlepidoptera species
> >(little 'snow roaches'). The leaves are 1.5-2 cm long and 0.8-1 cm wide and
> >conspicuously deep purple (facilitates temperature absorption) and the
> >flowers are very dark anthracite-purple, almost black (like 'black' tulips)
> >meaning they do not reflect the small amount of infrared radiation entering
> >the crevasses for may be an hour or two per day. The antheres  are
> >absolutely transparent, making chromosome counting (meiosis) quite easy.
> >The xy specimens have an amorphophallus-shaped pistil while the xx enjoy a
> >very soft and expansible spur.  I thought first to name it P. glacialis,
> >but this is to common, dozens of plants are 'glacialis'. P. gelida? Is
> >rarely used in botanical names. P. algida? Exists already. P. barbata, in
> >honour to the beard of the species _Janus Schlauerus_? Not distinct, many
> >have beards. P. rivadaviae? Inadequate, Fernando doesn't like cold
> >climates.  P. aprilia?
> >Juerg
> >
> >___________________________________________________
> >Juerg Steiger, Institut fuer Aus-, Weiter- und Fortbildung  IAWF
> >University of Bern, Inselspital 37a, CH-3010 Bern, Switzerland
> >Office:  ++41  31  632 98 87,    Fax:   ++41 31  632 98 71
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> *****************************
> Gilles LARDY
> E_mail : lardyg7@cti.ecp.fr
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Topic No. 8
> 
> Date: 1 Apr 1996 10:43:47 -0500
> From: "Nick Plummer" <Nick_Plummer.HG#u#MAIL@mailgw.surg.med.umich.edu>
> To: "cplist" <cp@opus.hpl.hp.com>
> Subject: Utrics and fry
> Message-ID: <n1383767544.62121@mailgw.surg.med.umich.edu>
> 
> >From: smallory@ouray.cudenver.edu (Sean Mallory)
> >as I recall it has been noted that daphnia and
> >similar species do well around the ultrics. Thus the ultrics may
> >be a very good addition to breeding tanks, providing both food and
> >shelter to small fry.
> 
> Regarding the use of Utricularia as cover in a fry tank.  I have a copy of the
> old Innes aquarium book which describes Betta splendens fry trapped by
> Utricularia.   Apparently the fry were too large to engulf, but they were
> trapped by the head.  This is a single anecdote in an old book, so take it
> with a grain of salt.  Utrics would certainly be safe with larger fry like
> those of live bearers (although the parents might eat the Utrics).
> 
> cheers,
>        Nick
> 
> ---------------------------
> Nicholas Plummer
> nplummer@umich.edu
> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~nplummer/homepage.html
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Topic No. 9
> 
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:20:24 -0300 (GRNLNDST)
> From: Fernando Rivadavia Lopes <ferndriv@usp.br>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Cc: Multiple recipients of list <cp@opus.hpl.hp.com>
> Subject: Re: Weird and Wonderful contest
> Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960401181148.24282O-100000@spider.usp.br>
> 
> 
> > To all (Particularly Andrew)
> > > 	How does two week old baby rats sound?  I had surplus of a litter
> > > last year and so into the traps they went.  It took a few minutes to drown
> > > them, a month or so to digest them and the growth afterwards was
> > > incredible. 
> > 
> > This is getting sick!I am sure a research ethics commitee would have 
> > serious doubts about allowing such behaviour. Next thing you know
> >  people will be suggesting human body parts as plant food.
> >  Hmmmmm... dead skin and nail clippings. Could be an option?
> > 
> > Martin
> 
> 	Have any of you tried real human blood?? I HAVE! But don't worry, 
> it was my own, dripping off from a scratched scab. The Drosera LOVED it! 
> It was then that I decided to experiment and found out that they also like 
> spit. And why not? After all, enzymes are just large proteins! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 			All the Best,
> 
> 
> 
> 			Fernando Rivadavia
> 			Sao Paulo Brazil - in 3 days: Tokyo, Japan!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Topic No. 10
> 
> Date:    Mon, 01 Apr 96 17:01 EST
> From: dave evans                           <T442119@RUTADMIN.RUTGERS.EDU>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: Re: wierd and wonderful contest
> Message-ID: <199604012209.AA248826557@hplabs.hpl.hp.com>
> 
> > From: "MARTIN HENERY" <mhenery@RNA.BIO.MQ.EDU.AU>
> >
> > This is getting sick!I am sure a research ethics commitee would have
> > serious doubts about allowing such behaviour. Next thing you know
> >  people will be suggesting human body parts as plant food.
> >  Hmmmmm... dead skin and nail clippings. Could be an option?
> 
> Hmm...  I wonder if N. rafflesiana will take some nail clippings?
> If it does, will it start asking for blood too?  What if I end up
> with Audrey II?  Rabid Nepenthes take over New York!  Of course, they
> all die, like the blob, when hit with freezing gas.
> 
> 
> Dave Evans
> 
> 
> P.S. I'll get back to you in a couple months about those nails.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Topic No. 11
> 
> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:17:37 -0500
> From: paigeblakely@earthlink.net (Geoffrey Blakely)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: In Vitro of Sarracenia seeds
> Message-ID: <v01530500ad876587bdcc@[153.37.110.58]>
> 
> Hey Guy!
> 
> Just wanted to experiment with some in vitro of sarracenia seeds, what the
> recipe for successfully doing so.
> Come on Ron help me out here!
> 
> Geoff in NC
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Topic No. 12
> 
> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 19:29:32 -0600 (CST)
> From: Chris Teichreb <teichrch@Meena.CC.URegina.CA>
> To: Listserv discussion <cp@opus.hpl.hp.com>
> Subject: sweet revenge!
> Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960401192459.541076118B-100000@Meena.CC.URegina.CA>
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 	Just thought I'd share this with you.  Today, while looking in on 
> my D.rotundifolia pot (they're finally sending up flower stalks!), I 
> noticed a small, white bug, an aphid!!!  Grabbing my handy forceps, I 
> gave chase to the little guy.  It hopped from leaf stalk to leaf stalk 
> avoiding the grasp of the forceps until it finally made one last valiant 
> effort to escape by jumping upwards.  Well, the rest is kind of gruesome, 
> but to say the least, my Drosera are now aphid free and enjoying a well 
> deserved meal!
> 
> Chris Teichreb
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Topic No. 13
> 
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 20:27:36 -0600 (CST)
> From: MPM7347@ACS.TAMU.EDU
> To: CP@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: VFT
> Message-ID: <960401202736.2021d5a1@ACS.TAMU.EDU>
> 
> I will keep this short since my buffer is somewhat restricted.
> I have a VFT which a week ago the leaves grew limp and somewhat yellowish. some turned brown.. eventually the plant died and the roots were brown and slimey.
> this is what I did:
> 			upon purchase: repot in 10gal aquarium with 50/50 peat
> 			moss and sand.
> 					cover tank 3/4 way with plexiglass.  
> 					used r/o water, a gro lamp situated
> 					3feet above tank, \
> One thing I did not do is clean the roots completely from the original potting material used by the company.  Is that necessary? 
> also with an analog therm./barometer I measured the temp/ humidity 
> the temp ranged from 65 to 85 and humidity from 50% to 90% 
> P.S. I am in Texas growing my VFT indoors.  Sorry about the choppy message
> if anybody has any helpful hints or advice I would be forever endebted to you.
> :)     Thanks
> 			Mike M.
> 
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