How to grow

Randall Palmer (sfdzeqe0@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us)
Tue, 2 Apr 1996 07:15:05 -0500 (EST)

In my expierance, Pings grow in dirt. I have grown Pings in dirt
on top of Canadian peat, but when the leaf grows to the peat it turns
orange and finds the ghost. On my Venus they live best in a moist
enviorment, with out wind on them. On my C. Leuco do not water the plant
itself, only the roots, best from the bottom of the pot. As a matter of
fact it is best to water all of your canevorous plants this way. But
when you pot a plant, a little liquid orchid fert. will stimulate the
roots. But do not fert. Banatas or seedlings.

Randy Palmer
sfdzeqe0@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us

On Mon, 1 Apr 1996 cp@opus.hpl.hp.com wrote:

> CP Digest 670
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) Re: Philippines
> by bb626@scn.org (SCN User)
> 2) public apology
> by Perry Malouf <pmalouf@access.digex.net>
> 3) re:heliamphora growing
> by paigeblakely@earthlink.net (Geoffrey Blakely)
> 4) Pings on vertical soil
> by "Jan Stenicka (student)" <STENICKA@tunw.upol.cz>
> 5) Re: NEW PING. SPECIES IDENTIFIED!
> by Peter Cole <carnivor@bunyip.demon.co.uk>
> 6) Heliamphora culture/Herbarium specimens
> by Rogan Roth <roth@botany.unp.ac.za>
> 7) Re: NEW PING. SPECIES IDENTIFIED!
> by Gilles Lardy <lardyg7@cti.ecp.fr>
> 8) Utrics and fry
> by "Nick Plummer" <Nick_Plummer.HG#u#MAIL@mailgw.surg.med.umich.edu>
> 9) Re: Weird and Wonderful contest
> by Fernando Rivadavia Lopes <ferndriv@usp.br>
> 10) Re: Re: wierd and wonderful contest
> by dave evans <T442119@RUTADMIN.RUTGERS.EDU>
> 11) In Vitro of Sarracenia seeds
> by paigeblakely@earthlink.net (Geoffrey Blakely)
> 12) sweet revenge!
> by Chris Teichreb <teichrch@Meena.CC.URegina.CA>
> 13) VFT
> by MPM7347@ACS.TAMU.EDU
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 1
>
> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:43:17 -0800
> From: bb626@scn.org (SCN User)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: Philippines
> Message-ID: <199604010043.QAA09186@scn.org>
>
> Jan,
> Sorry no type info only site info on N. deaniana. I did speak with
> John Turnbull on the description that was in Macfarland mono of N.
> deaniana. He stated that the plants on the summit were different than
> The more common ones at lower elevations.
> As for N. petiolata i would have to see ELMER's write up on N.
> surigaoensis. I have found the documentation back then very sloppy.
> Does Danser consider the petioles in N. truncata and alata when he
> made the evaluation of that sample from Elmer? They all grow together
> in Mindinao and multiple hybrids are all over the place.
> Truly,
>
> --
> Tom Kahl/Nepenthes Club
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 2
>
> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:28:37 +4300 (EST)
> From: Perry Malouf <pmalouf@access.digex.net>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: public apology
> Message-ID: <199604010128.UAA15801@access2.digex.net>
>
> To all subscribers:
> My apologies for having three postings appear on
> the listserver which should have been sent to private
> addresses. In fact the first two were duplicates. I'm
> still trying to figure out how this happened, as my
> original attempt was to send mail directly to the inquiring
> individual.
>
> Mea culpa...
>
> Perry Malouf
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 3
>
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:29:24 -0500
> From: paigeblakely@earthlink.net (Geoffrey Blakely)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: re:heliamphora growing
> Message-ID: <v01530500ad865c65ef53@[153.37.110.1]>
>
> In answer to some heliamphora questions, from what I know heliamphora can
> be fertilized with 1/4 strength fertilizer misted onto the leaves once or
> twice a month. No I do not believe that they are self fertile.
>
> As for my black plastic, it keeps the lights from bothering me in the
> mornings because one of my shelving units is in my bedroom. Bright lights
> at 6 in the morning? I think at that time I'd feel as if the aliens have
> invaded my room to examine me.
>
> Geoff in NC
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 4
>
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 10:39:11 MET-1
> From: "Jan Stenicka (student)" <STENICKA@tunw.upol.cz>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Pings on vertical soil
> Message-ID: <29BA6C734B@tunw.upol.cz>
>
> Hi everybody,
> could someone help me? I have trouble with cultivation of european
> Pings on vertical soil (mixured from peat, limestone gravel and
> sphagnum). I've prepared watering system, which contains waterpump,
> filter, containers (60x30x5cm, inclination almost 50 degrees).
> !!! Should I be affraid of soil's washing away? !!!
> GOOD GROWING
> Jan
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 5
>
> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 11:20:57 GMT
> From: Peter Cole <carnivor@bunyip.demon.co.uk>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: NEW PING. SPECIES IDENTIFIED!
> Message-ID: <4765@bunyip.demon.co.uk>
>
> ...
> > very soft and expansible spur. I thought first to name it P. glacialis,
> > but this is to common, dozens of plants are 'glacialis'. P. gelida? Is
> > rarely used in botanical names. P. algida? Exists already. P. barbata, in
> > honour to the beard of the species _Janus Schlauerus_? Not distinct, many
> > have beards. P. rivadaviae? Inadequate, Fernando doesn't like cold
> > climates. P. aprilia?
>
> P.aprilis ssp.iocus I would imagine, doubtless a relative of Leonard
> Bastin's P.capra-consumis :^)
>
> Happy growing,
>
> Peter
>
>
> snail:Peter Cole,17 Wimmerfield Cr. :mailto:carnivor@bunyip.demon.co.uk
> Killay, SWANSEA SA2 7BU, WALES :http://www.angel.co.uk/flytrap/index.htm
> vox:+44 1792 205214 :ftp://www.angel.co.uk/pub/flytrap
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 6
>
> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 14:45:32 +0200
> From: Rogan Roth <roth@botany.unp.ac.za>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Heliamphora culture/Herbarium specimens
> Message-ID: <s15fec23.085@smtp.unp.ac.za>
>
> Dear Everybody,
>
> I would like to comment on two recent subjects of interest:
>
> 1.) I grow Heliamphora heterodoxa close to the wet-wall of one of our
> greenhouses very successfully. The cool, humid air which
> continuously flows around the plant seems to be the right recipe.
> Light levels are fairly high c. 60% of full sunlight. I have several
> seedlings of Darlingtonia in the same position which have thrived,
> even though our summertime highs have reached 35+ deg.C on several
> occasions.
>
> 2.) I have dried pitchers of several CP genera for preservation using
> a 50/50 mixture of fine silica sand and silica gel. Specimens are
> completely dehydrated 7-10 days later. This method often preserves
> the natural colour and shape of the specimen indefinitely - wonderful
> if you want to encase it in a block of casting resin!
>
> Cheers for now from one of the only two South Africans on the list!
>
> Best regards
> Rogan.
>
> (ROTH@BOTANY.UNP.AC.ZA)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 7
>
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:56:24 +0200 (MET DST)
> From: Gilles Lardy <lardyg7@cti.ecp.fr>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: NEW PING. SPECIES IDENTIFIED!
> Message-ID: <199604011256.OAA15479@lynx.cti.ecp.fr>
>
> Unbelievable...
>
> At 19:31 31/03/1996 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> >Unbelievable: Recently I found a Ping. population growing on pure ice at
> >the margin of a glacier (not on the moraines but on the glacier itself) and
> >even within crevasses! The winter buds stage seems to last about 10 months
> >and even during the 2 month vegetation period the plant tolerates
> >temperatures much below the freezing point (as it is known also from
> >Ranunculus glacialis and other high-alpine species). Microscopical
> >investigation revealed glacier fleas as the main prey, but also ice-tails
> >(an alpine springtail species) and an alpine microlepidoptera species
> >(little 'snow roaches'). The leaves are 1.5-2 cm long and 0.8-1 cm wide and
> >conspicuously deep purple (facilitates temperature absorption) and the
> >flowers are very dark anthracite-purple, almost black (like 'black' tulips)
> >meaning they do not reflect the small amount of infrared radiation entering
> >the crevasses for may be an hour or two per day. The antheres are
> >absolutely transparent, making chromosome counting (meiosis) quite easy.
> >The xy specimens have an amorphophallus-shaped pistil while the xx enjoy a
> >very soft and expansible spur. I thought first to name it P. glacialis,
> >but this is to common, dozens of plants are 'glacialis'. P. gelida? Is
> >rarely used in botanical names. P. algida? Exists already. P. barbata, in
> >honour to the beard of the species _Janus Schlauerus_? Not distinct, many
> >have beards. P. rivadaviae? Inadequate, Fernando doesn't like cold
> >climates. P. aprilia?
> >Juerg
> >
> >___________________________________________________
> >Juerg Steiger, Institut fuer Aus-, Weiter- und Fortbildung IAWF
> >University of Bern, Inselspital 37a, CH-3010 Bern, Switzerland
> >Office: ++41 31 632 98 87, Fax: ++41 31 632 98 71
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> *****************************
> Gilles LARDY
> E_mail : lardyg7@cti.ecp.fr
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 8
>
> Date: 1 Apr 1996 10:43:47 -0500
> From: "Nick Plummer" <Nick_Plummer.HG#u#MAIL@mailgw.surg.med.umich.edu>
> To: "cplist" <cp@opus.hpl.hp.com>
> Subject: Utrics and fry
> Message-ID: <n1383767544.62121@mailgw.surg.med.umich.edu>
>
> >From: smallory@ouray.cudenver.edu (Sean Mallory)
> >as I recall it has been noted that daphnia and
> >similar species do well around the ultrics. Thus the ultrics may
> >be a very good addition to breeding tanks, providing both food and
> >shelter to small fry.
>
> Regarding the use of Utricularia as cover in a fry tank. I have a copy of the
> old Innes aquarium book which describes Betta splendens fry trapped by
> Utricularia. Apparently the fry were too large to engulf, but they were
> trapped by the head. This is a single anecdote in an old book, so take it
> with a grain of salt. Utrics would certainly be safe with larger fry like
> those of live bearers (although the parents might eat the Utrics).
>
> cheers,
> Nick
>
> ---------------------------
> Nicholas Plummer
> nplummer@umich.edu
> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~nplummer/homepage.html
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 9
>
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:20:24 -0300 (GRNLNDST)
> From: Fernando Rivadavia Lopes <ferndriv@usp.br>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Cc: Multiple recipients of list <cp@opus.hpl.hp.com>
> Subject: Re: Weird and Wonderful contest
> Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960401181148.24282O-100000@spider.usp.br>
>
>
> > To all (Particularly Andrew)
> > > How does two week old baby rats sound? I had surplus of a litter
> > > last year and so into the traps they went. It took a few minutes to drown
> > > them, a month or so to digest them and the growth afterwards was
> > > incredible.
> >
> > This is getting sick!I am sure a research ethics commitee would have
> > serious doubts about allowing such behaviour. Next thing you know
> > people will be suggesting human body parts as plant food.
> > Hmmmmm... dead skin and nail clippings. Could be an option?
> >
> > Martin
>
> Have any of you tried real human blood?? I HAVE! But don't worry,
> it was my own, dripping off from a scratched scab. The Drosera LOVED it!
> It was then that I decided to experiment and found out that they also like
> spit. And why not? After all, enzymes are just large proteins!
>
>
>
>
> All the Best,
>
>
>
> Fernando Rivadavia
> Sao Paulo Brazil - in 3 days: Tokyo, Japan!!!!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 10
>
> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 17:01 EST
> From: dave evans <T442119@RUTADMIN.RUTGERS.EDU>
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: Re: Re: wierd and wonderful contest
> Message-ID: <199604012209.AA248826557@hplabs.hpl.hp.com>
>
> > From: "MARTIN HENERY" <mhenery@RNA.BIO.MQ.EDU.AU>
> >
> > This is getting sick!I am sure a research ethics commitee would have
> > serious doubts about allowing such behaviour. Next thing you know
> > people will be suggesting human body parts as plant food.
> > Hmmmmm... dead skin and nail clippings. Could be an option?
>
> Hmm... I wonder if N. rafflesiana will take some nail clippings?
> If it does, will it start asking for blood too? What if I end up
> with Audrey II? Rabid Nepenthes take over New York! Of course, they
> all die, like the blob, when hit with freezing gas.
>
>
> Dave Evans
>
>
> P.S. I'll get back to you in a couple months about those nails.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 11
>
> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:17:37 -0500
> From: paigeblakely@earthlink.net (Geoffrey Blakely)
> To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: In Vitro of Sarracenia seeds
> Message-ID: <v01530500ad876587bdcc@[153.37.110.58]>
>
> Hey Guy!
>
> Just wanted to experiment with some in vitro of sarracenia seeds, what the
> recipe for successfully doing so.
> Come on Ron help me out here!
>
> Geoff in NC
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 12
>
> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 19:29:32 -0600 (CST)
> From: Chris Teichreb <teichrch@Meena.CC.URegina.CA>
> To: Listserv discussion <cp@opus.hpl.hp.com>
> Subject: sweet revenge!
> Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960401192459.541076118B-100000@Meena.CC.URegina.CA>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just thought I'd share this with you. Today, while looking in on
> my D.rotundifolia pot (they're finally sending up flower stalks!), I
> noticed a small, white bug, an aphid!!! Grabbing my handy forceps, I
> gave chase to the little guy. It hopped from leaf stalk to leaf stalk
> avoiding the grasp of the forceps until it finally made one last valiant
> effort to escape by jumping upwards. Well, the rest is kind of gruesome,
> but to say the least, my Drosera are now aphid free and enjoying a well
> deserved meal!
>
> Chris Teichreb
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 13
>
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 20:27:36 -0600 (CST)
> From: MPM7347@ACS.TAMU.EDU
> To: CP@opus.hpl.hp.com
> Subject: VFT
> Message-ID: <960401202736.2021d5a1@ACS.TAMU.EDU>
>
> I will keep this short since my buffer is somewhat restricted.
> I have a VFT which a week ago the leaves grew limp and somewhat yellowish. some turned brown.. eventually the plant died and the roots were brown and slimey.
> this is what I did:
> upon purchase: repot in 10gal aquarium with 50/50 peat
> moss and sand.
> cover tank 3/4 way with plexiglass.
> used r/o water, a gro lamp situated
> 3feet above tank, \
> One thing I did not do is clean the roots completely from the original potting material used by the company. Is that necessary?
> also with an analog therm./barometer I measured the temp/ humidity
> the temp ranged from 65 to 85 and humidity from 50% to 90%
> P.S. I am in Texas growing my VFT indoors. Sorry about the choppy message
> if anybody has any helpful hints or advice I would be forever endebted to you.
> :) Thanks
> Mike M.
>
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