Barry Meyers-Rice (
Thu, 20 Jul 1995 12:29:54 -0700

>The word from the North Carolina NC office is that TNC no longer
>allows the public (NC members or otherwise) into McClure Bog due
>to poaching problems, nor will they give information on other
>locations of s. rubra. While I'm not overjoyed to hear this, I
>understand their reasoning. :(

It is our own fault, eh?

>I would vote to EXCLUDE ALL NAMES of commercial CP sources from the
>archives/database associated with this list who don't have a written,
>signed statement that 100% of their CP are propagated (from at least 2nd
>generation plants?). I think this has been hashed out before on this
>list, and obviously the decision has been made to include all nurseries,
>regardless of their histories, philosophies, or plant origins.

I don't think this is such a bad idea, but with the caveat that the relevant
CP must be endangered ones. I don't have much problem with someone sending
me some D. capillaris, but something both endangered and CITES listed like
Nepenthes and Sarracenia is a different issue. So far, I think that
Xxxxx Xxxx'x is the only truly offensive nursery I would like to see deleted
from the web/archive servers.

Or, as Wayne suggested, instead of complete silence install a disclaimer such

``Posting this information regarding Xxxxx Xxxx'x does not imply endorsement.
Because of allegations of illegal or immoral field-collection practices,
many growers prefer to patronize other establishments.''

Or whatever.....

My Web page contains no PP reference at all. Maybe I should.