Re: (re)Introduction

Michael Hasemann (jmh@tko.vtt.fi)
Thu, 5 Jan 1995 20:34:02 +0200 (EET)

Dear Andreas,

I am sorry and I hope you accept my excuses if you feel personally of-
fended by my last posting. This was not my intent.

> Dear Michael,
>
> you wrote:
>
> > Is this going to end up in an internet-shop ? I am feeling a little
> > irritated about these increasing more or less commercial (yes,
> > I have seen your smileys.) offers.
> >
> > (not to talk about this as a financial source for "Victorian time"
> > plant hunting.)
>
> a few days ago you wrote:
>
> >>Uwe Wsetphal (from Germany) grows them in virto. As far as I know
> >>he can supply them again in summer.
>
> >>..Michael
>
> A sudden change of mind??? (;-))
In contrast to you I do not benefit nor I make any sales because of this
list. It is abuse of the net for commercial purposes I do not agree
with.
Please be refered to the netiquette. Meanwhile I also regret to have
started this discussion as there is no real problem here (yet).

>
> > (and also not to talk about all that tissue culture stuff originating
> > from dubious
>
> If tissue culture is dubious then I'm proud of being able to do this
> dubious things. Otherwise I do not right understand what a large
> scale propagation by "high tech" has to do with Victorian-style plant
> hunting??? Who the hell hunts his in vitro stuff??? I usually go to
> the basement working all night at my laminar flow which I had to buy
> from my money (no support!). Usually the plants sit in their flasks
> and are quite easy to remove without any need to hunt them.
> I'm looking foreward receiving an explanation!

So if it is so easy to propagate them why do not you sell them hobbyists
prices. I mean if I see astronomical high prices for whatsoever species
I get the idea the price covers more than just the costs of propogation,
but also costs for travelling and reasonable profit margins.

This appears to be commercial business based on demand and offer.
Please be refered to the netiquette.

>
> > ("University supported" ?!) sources. Right, this is none
> > of my business.)
>
> None of us is University supported!
Note the question mark. I am sorry if you got me wrong on this. Thanks,
for clarification.

> Please try to find out more exactly what people you offend really do
> before flaming them in the public!
My deepest excuses again. Again, I regret to have started this
discussion and I got my lessons from it.

>
> >
> > ..Michael
> >
>
> If somebody searches for a plant I am able to supply either by
> _trade_ or sale, shall I ask a friend:
> "Hey could you write a message, telling that I have these things for
> trade (or aso sale)" instead of doing this myself.
> I regard this as childish.
Maybe, this is a borderline case.

> As a consequence you'll have to ban all informations on CP sources
> from this list. I think I am right that one aspect reading such lists
> for many people is getting infos where to _trade_ _or_ _buy_ CP's (in
> our case) or other stuff.
Read the netiquette!

>
>
> All the best
>
>
> Andreas

Yepp, best wishes and greetings

..Michael
> Andreas Wistuba; Mudauer Ring 227; 68259 Mannheim; Germany
> Inet: a.wistuba@dkfz-Heidelberg.de / a.wistuba@carnivor.rhein-neckar.de
> Phone: +49-621-705471 Fax: +49-621-711307
>

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