Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:37:34 BST From: fruit@argonet.co.uk (Andy Carter) To: cp@opus.hpl.hp.com Message-Id: <aabcdefg3788$foo@default> Subject: Re: IPSG
Hi Phil,
Thanks for the prompt reply, I'd expected an email to me rather than
through the list, however...
Phil Wilson wrote:
> Andy,
> >Right, but why didn't I receive issue 8, having paid you for issue
> >7 at Stan's in 1996? ... or had the subscription service changed to
> >payment in advance prior to issue 8?
> After issue 7 we were forced to change from a pay on receipt to pre-
> payment. This is the way all other societies work.
Sounds fair enough to me, but as I emailed, I didn't receive this
notification.
> Since Ron's departure two things became obvious.
> First the production of the newsletter involved a considerable outlay
> which was only (partially) being recovered when people paid up. Second,
> a considerable number of copies were not being paid for. Personally I
> don't think the intention was malicious, after all we were only talking
> about a few pounds per person.
I hope my reply to you didn't come over as implying any malicious
intention on your part, I only asked as I was not aware of the changes.
> Hardly worth holding out for.
I'm not sure what you mean here.
> I think the reasons were two fold. First, it is all too easy to
> forget to put a few quid in an envelope, especially for those overseas
> where they had to get sterling from somehere. Second, I think a lot of
> people had just moved on without leaving a forwarding address.
I had several discussions with Ron about payment and methods of payment.
Personally, I'm not too keen on writing cheques for small amounts of money
(ie one issue at a time), that incur proportionally large fees. This is
why I have in the past paid for all issues in cash and by hand.
> Whatever, the result was that quite large amounts of money (100 pound
> per issue plus?) was being lost. The IPSG doesn't have those sort of
> resources and in fact it turned out that poor old Ron was bankrolling us
> to a large extent for at least several issues.
I was aware that Ron was subsidising it to an extent, and urged him to
increase charges, but I did not realise it was to anywhere near this
extent.
> >> > Theoretically issue 9 is due out in the next month or so but
> >> > don't hold your breath as last time I heard Stan only had the one
> >> > article.
> >
> >That's a shame, I don't think I can rustle up anything ATM, apart
> >from a list of the very few Pings that survived last winter in an
> >unheated greenhouse :-(
> A very small list I should think unless you grow a lot of temperate
> species.
I had only one temperate Ping in that greenhouse, an Ionantha I'd had for
many years, but I think this died through drying out rather than cold.
Quite a few Mexicans made it through the winter, only to die in the
spring, some four or five however are still going to this day.
> I keep meaning to write something too but what with the CP
> journal I have enough balls to juggle at the moment.
> BTW. If you've lost plants let me know. I don't have too many spare
> Mexican Pings ATM, but most of the temperate stuff is dormant now so
> there ought to be a few gemmae at least.
Thanks anyway, I managed to replace quite a few through Graham (Sadd), so
life's not too bad.
I need your snail address re issue 8 please.
Regards
Andy
PS Why are Reply-To: fields set to cp@hplb on this list, when list replies
should go to cp@opus?
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